Official Chinese G1

Comprehensive 1990's G1 Guide

The purpose of this guide is to differentiate between the original 1980's G1 releases and the official chinese G1s released from 1989 through 1995, which come in near-identical packaging. 

The following are the three types of releases Transformers that get easily confused with the originals.

 

  • Chinese G1 packaged releases
  • Made in China stamped figures
  • Mysterious no-Hasbro copyright releases

 

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Chinese G1 packaged releases

Background info: In 1989, Hasbro began manufacturing Transformers in China, but rather than starting with the current line of Pretenders and Miromasters, they produced toys from 1984, 1985, and 1986. These Transformers were packaged in almost identical packaging to that of the original US releases (though, a couple came in Canadian, European, or Dutch packaging). The boxes had only tiny alternations and a small Chinese name sticker in the corner, making them very difficult to differentiate from the original releases, especially when the name sticker was removed. (This is unlike the G.I. Joe reissues in China from around the same time that used new packaging.) Chinese G1's continued to be released through 1995, with different toys being released each year, all of them almost identical to the original releases. There was much local demand at the time for the figures as the "Transformers" cartoon was first broadcast on local Shanghai TV (July 1988), then nationwide later in 1988.


For a long time collectors thought that Chinese releases were unlicensed knockoffs. However, they are in fact real Hasbro releases. There's lot of evidence to confirm this including, Takara selling the 1990's Chinese Aerialbots in Japan via mail order, and 1990's Chinese Transformers being found in the collection of a Hasbro employee. However most tellingly case finds have the expected Hasbro branding on the shipping cases. (These all differ to the replica unlicensed Chinese G1 counterfeits that started being manufactured in 2005. See the guides on this site.)


Along with being released in China, Taiwan and Hong Kong these G1's were imported into several countries to first keep meeting local market demand in the late 80's and to supplement the Gold boxed Classics that began in 1990. Markets such as the United Kingdom and Australia were behind the US market in terms of stock distribution so while Japan's production lines had moved on, producing popular earlier figures in China and shipping them out was a way to meet their demand - and also act as bridge into the Gold Boxed Classics line.


Other countries known to have sold the Chinese releases include the Netherlands, Korea, Portugal and New Zealand. The Constructions were a popular, high demand item in the United Kingdom as they were not released locally as part of the season 2 lineup, numerous carded figures have been found with Woolworths UK price tags(IGA constructions did make it to the UK but stock was much more limited), the four minibots could also be found at Woolworths, while in Australia there was a high concentration of Starscreams, Ramjets and Cyclonus figures - presumably to balance the Autobot heavy gold classics.

1984, 1985 and 1986 toys released between 1989 - 1992 (AKA Series 1, 2, and 3)

=== Autobots ===

  • Optimus Prime (Was priced at 95-100 Yuan locally)
  • Autobot cars: Hound, Jazz, Ironhide, Mirage, Smokescreen, Prowl, Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, Inferno, Tracks
  • Minibots: Bumblebee, Seaspray, Beachcomber, Hubcap
  • Blaster, Ramhorn / Eject, Rewind / Steeljaw
  • Dinobots: Grimlock, Slag, Sludge, Snarl, Swoop
  • Triple-changers: Springer and Broadside.
  • Aerialbots: All individually packaged; not as a giftset.
  • Protectobots: All individually packaged; not as a giftset.


=== Decepticons ===

  • Megatron
  • Decepticon Jets: Starscream, Ramjet
  • Constructicons: All individually packaged; not as a giftset
  • Soundwave/Buzzsaw (TM and R European boxed variants) 
  • Rumble/Ravage Ratbat/Frenzy
  • Cyclonus
  • Triple-changers: Astrotrain and Blitzwing
  • Stunticons: All individually packaged; not as a giftset.

1987 toys released from 1993 (AKA Series 4)

=== Autobots ===  

  • Fortress Maximus
  • Headmasters: All four
  • Targetmasters: Pointblank, Sureshot and Crosshairs
  • Fastlane /Cloudraker
  • Punch / Counterpunch


== Decepticons ===

  • Scorponok
  • Slugfest / Overkill
  • Headmasters: Skullcruncher in Canadian Box "Broyeur", Mindwipe also in canadian box "Amnesiak". Weirdwolf was packaged in the U.S. box.
  • Horrorcons: Apeface in Canadian Box "Gorillo". Snapdragon U.S. Box.
  • Pounce / Wingspan
  • Sixshot

1988 toys released from 1994 (AKA Series 5)

=== Autobots === 

  • Powermaster Optimus Prime
  • Powermaster Cars: All three.
  • Headmasters: All three (Nightbeat and Siren came in a Dutch box.)
  • Grand Slam/Raindance
  • Triggerbots: All three.


=== Decepticons ===

  • Powermaster Jets: Both.
  • Headmasters: Fangry, Squeezeplay
  • Squawktalk/Beastbox
  • Triggercons: All three.



1989 Japanese Transformers Victory toys reissued from 1995

  • Multiforce: All three two packs (no giftset)
  • Brainmaster: All three Roadcaesar cars individually (but not Star Saber)
  • Breastforce: All six Liokaiser components, including Leozack. (Deszarus was not produced.)
  • (Note: There are conflicting reports about Leozack. I've seen photographic evidence of his existence, but first-hand accounts suggest he was basically impossible to find. Perhaps the mold broke mid-way through production, causing only a small number to be released.)


As you can see, they released about half of the first five years of G1, plus several toys from the Japanese Transformers Victory series. With the Chinese stickers removed, they have been difficult to tell apart from the original releases.

A. Packaging differences

Series 1 through Series 4 Chinese releases have one very obvious tell. On the back of the box/card (under the box for Soundwave), where the copyright and manufacturing text is usually written, the part that says "Made and printed in Japan. Manufactured by Takara" (or some variant thereof) is omitted. Sometimes there is a black bar printed over it, sometimes it was carefully removed - it depends on the toy. But either way, all that is left is the Hasbro copyright part of the string. This is referred to as shortened copyright.


Here's an example of a 1980's Seaspray and a Chinese release Seaspray. Note how much shorter the copyright info is on the Chinese made figure.

Series 5 Chinese releases have a slightly different alteration. They leave the "Takara" part alone, but instead of "Made in (Country) by Takara", it says "Made in China C-123A" where "123A" is replaced with some similar number/letter combination. However, it's important to note that some Series 5 Transformers, like the Powermaster cars, were originally manufactured in China in 1988, so if you see a 1988 G1 toy that says "Made in China" on the box without the "C-123" part, that's an original 1980's release, not a 1990's Chinese release. See the Slapdash example above.


There were also additional stickers added to the packaging, on the front, a small black sticker, usually in the top right corner with chinese characters in white that denotes the figure name, if there was additional charcters in brackets that is the secondary name translation for other markets (ie Hong Kong). On the reverse, usually at the bottom, an additional black sticker with white characters that provides origin information, the top line translates to "Nanhai County Yongnan Toys Co., Ltd." the second line is "Guangdong Nanhai Yanbu", which means Yanbu, Nanhai District, Guangdong Province. Nanhai is no longer a county. Now it is a district of Foshan. Exported figures either had no stickers or only the name sticker on the front of the packaging.


Looking into the origin information and confirmed on chinese message boards, Nanhai County Yongnan Toys Co., Ltd. was established by Hong Kong Yonghe Industrial Co., Ltd. in Nanhai County. In 1987, Hong Kong Yonghe Industrial Co., Ltd. bought the authorization of Transformers toys from Hasbro(US). In 1989, Yongnan Toys Co., Ltd. was then opened in Yanbu Town (now Dali Town, Foshan City) in Nanhai County. Thus introducing American Transformers molds and production lines to produce Transformers toys for Hasbro. It was the first authorized genuine Transformers toy factory in China at that time.


G1 packaged Chinese made figures that were officially imported into Europe also had a sticker that shows the distributer/importer, with the sticker displaying the CE mark. The CE Mark was a directive that was that was created in 1988 and effective from 1st Jan 1990, that indicates the item complies with the relevant safety directives issued by the European Union. The UK also have the Lion Mark, which was also created in 1988 and effective from 1st Jan 1990. Any Chinese released figures officially sold in the UK from 1990 should have Hasbro Bradley's official distributer sticker with both of these logos on it.  Prior to this it appears importer Kingsley Paige PLC, was importing chinese transformers into the UK from 1989. The general consensus indicates they were parallel imports - (products that you buy from a business who does not have specific permission from the manufacturer) however as their import sticker had the CE mark which other European transformers import stickers also had, Hasbro Bradley UK would have been involved somewhere in the import/distribution process.  Both in the UK and Portugal there are instances of chinese transformers being available without the import sticker - these were likely imported before 1st Jan 1990, when the CE mark was effective. These figures commonly still had the chinese name sticker on the front of the box/card. The first import sticker on transformers imported into Portugal provides some basic transformation instructions in Portuguese and then lists the importer as Chaves, feist & CIA with the CE mark. This was then updated by having another sticker placed over the top of the importer information(and thus the CE mark) that, in Portuguese, indicates Hasbro are now more involved as the distributer - "Distributed in Portugal by Hasbro, Import and Export of Games and Toys Ltd." along with an age recommendation for the figure. See Image. Verified by Portugese collectors the timeline would have likely been chinese name sticker versions 1989/1990, figures that have the Chaves, feist import sticker on with the CE mark 1990 - 1992 and Figures with the additional distributed by Hasbro Portugal sticker, 1992 and later.

There are also some other packaging differences unique to certain toys -

=== Autobots ===

  • Optimus Prime, the white boxes around the three toy pictures on the front of the box have been turned black. The cut of the window is too high, such that it goes beyond the grey rectangle. (Note that the Mexican release, various european releases, the Mysterious no-Hasbro-Copyright release (see below), and some Pre-Rubs have this change as well). In addition the box has no ® on the front or back.  The syrofoam insert is also the hollow side version - same as gold boxed classic primes.
  • Autobot cars are factory sealed with thicker tape than original 1980's releases.
  • Nightbeat and Siren came in Dutch packaging.

=== Decepticons ===

  • Starscream - The grey border is of a more consistent size and continues down to the bottom of the window.
  • Soundwave came in European quadlingual packaging (French/English/Dutch/Spanish - This is the order of the tech specs, same as the european released ceji version. Soundwave also had both TM and R box releases. See our deeper dive into Chinese soundwaves!

Skullcruncher, Mindwipe, and Apeface came in Canadian packaging with English and French text on the box. (There was a Canadian release in the same packaging, of course, so this alone does not make it the Chinese version. Look for the modified copyright/manufacturing text on the back to confirm on all multilingual boxes.)


One other thing to note is that the Chinese Transformers Victory releases from 1995 all had substantial alterations on the packaging, which replaced the Japanese Transformers logo with a Chinese logo, the character's Japanese name with his Chinese name, and the Japanese characters for "Takara" with the English word "Takara" (among many other differences).

B. Toy differences

Blocked copyright - For Series 1 through Series 4 releases, the part of the copyright stamp usually marked "(C) TAKARA Japan/Taiwan/Macau" is blocked out. (This is the same blocking out that was done on the later Gold Classics releases.) Series 5 releases (i.e., Powermasters, small Headmasters), have a slightly different blocking out--they leave the "(C) TAKARA" part as-is, and only block out the manufacturing country.

The toys themselves also have other slight differences compared to the original 1980's releases. Here's a list of some of the known differences:

=== Autobots ===

  • Optimus Prime - Optimus Prime is the same as the ceji (french) mold so cab(leg and head)/roller/trailer(T2) and accessories have the number 3 on them. See image gallery below for further information.
  • Prowl - the blue shield stickers on the hood and doors have the word diaclone on them, same as the gold classics release.
  • Tracks - black diecast shins, same as the gold classics release.
  • Protectobots: All figures are plastic chested (non metal).
  • Ramhorn/Eject: Ramhorn has painted details on the cassette side instead of sticker details.
  • Steeljaw/Rewind: Steeljaw has painted details on the cassette side instead of sticker details.
  • Fastlane/Cloudraker: Instead of two specialized rubsigns, they have one normal non-rubsign faction symbols and one rubsign each.
  • Punch/Counterpunch: Instead of specialized rubsigns, they have normal non-rubsign faction symbols.
  • Triggerbots They each have a rubsign where the original toys did not have a rubsign.
  • Nightbeat: His flame stickers have a thicker border and are metallic.


=== Decepticons ===

  • Blitzwing - Rubsign is placed at the front of the turret.
  • Scorponok - Had no manafacturing stamp at all, it had been totally blocked out.
  • Soundwave: Buzzsaw has painted details on the cassette side instead of sticker details. (Soundwave toy has two copyright blocks - one that covers "Made in France" and one that covers the Takara copyright - (inside of the battery case)). See further information here.
  • Ravage/Rumble: Rumble has painted details on the cassette side instead of sticker details.
  • Ratbat/Frenzy: Both Ratbat and Frenzy have painted details on the cassette side instead of sticker details.
  • Pounce/Wingspan: Instead of two specialized rubsigns, they have one normal non-rubsign faction symbols and one rubsign each.
  • Triggercons: They each have a rubsign where the original toys did not have a rubsign.


**Cassettes with painted details are easy to spot in pictures, because their screws are visible, whereas cassettes with sticker details have their screws covered by the stickers. Check out Fred's page to see what they look like. There are a lot of other minor differences as well beyond the ones I've mentioned above. In particularly there were a lot of slight color differences. I'm less familiar with these, so rather than give a halfhazard listing of them, they been omitted from this guide.


Made in China Manufacturing Stamps

An common assumption with identifying transformers is that if it has a made in China manufacturing stamp it is a official reissue or a counterfeit. We know that counterfeits try to replicate original figures as much as possible including the original manufacturing stamps, while certain figures - that have never officially been reissued - have appeared with these stamps. So where do these figures come from?


Here we have the Dinobot Sludge with a Made in China stamp, its not a replica counterfeit and its not G2 (Sludge didn't have a G2 figure), its not the initial chinese release nor a gold box classic as the figures copyright would have been blocked. (See below for more on gold boxed classics).

Its uses the same mold as these and had a single owner (purchased in 1992, Sydney, Australia). The timeline matches with the previously discussed periods but why does it have 'made in China' instead of a copyright blocked stamp? Sludge manufacturing stamp comparison.


Chinese message boards refer to these figures with made in china manufacturing stamps as reprints of their earlier China made G1 packaged released figures, that confirms that Sludge and other made in china figures were made after the classic blocked stamped figures. Adding text ontop a blocked section of a mold is much easier than removing the block altogether. These figures were then sent to markets where there was still strong demand for the initial g1 figures (Australia/UK) while also filling the late G1 mail-order market (ie Japan). At approximately the same time (1992) El Greco and GiG released their made in china stamped Defensor and Devastator giftsets, both of these companies also released Sludge (There is extremely limited information on these El Greco dinobots).  The collectors on these message boards classed these giftsets along with these dinobots and the Defensor recolor Guard City(1992) as official reprints. The majority of these figures(Three Dinobots, Constructions and the Protectobots (Well we almost got G2 Protectobots)) were then transitioned into their G2 releases. Tellingly there is also a box difference with these dinobots - the copyright now has a gray background - As three of the five dinobots got silver G2 releases, it could be said Made in China stamped Sludge and Swoop are the rarest Dinotbots!).


In summary the blocked stamped figures were released before these 1992 Made in China figures, with multiple packaging options is it possible these Made in China figures ended up in Gold Boxed Classic packaging?

C. Gold Boxed Classics.

The Gold Boxed classics that were released in Europe and Australasia were manufactured in Nanhai County, Foshan City, very likely the same factory as the chinese packaged G1s as the stickers on the back roughly translate correctly.

The first wave of classics released in 1990 included the Aerialbots, Stunticons and six Classic Hero Autobot cars. All of these used the same mold as the chinese released G1's.

The 1991 classics were Dinobots (Grimlock, Sludge and Snarl), Optimus Prime, Sideswipe and Tracks, Throttlebots, Protectobots, Combaticons and the Triplechangers.(Astrotrain/Octane and Sandstorm/Springer).


All of these except the combaticons, throttlebots, Octane and Sandstorm were earlier released for the chinese market in G1 styled packaging.


Octane and Sandstorm have been found with their chinese name stickers on their gold boxes, so it was likely their first release into the chinese market. Both of these have blocked manufacturing stamps. A further difference for both Octane and Sandstorm is that they had rubsigns while the other(European/Australasia) gold boxed versions of these figures do not (Yet they both retain the rubsign indents).


Sealed Fireflight and Breakdown figures have also been sighted with both chinese identifying stickers on, but the cards they were sealed on were english/french, usually indicating a Canadian release - but the classics didn't officially make it to Canada. The cards do have local canadian post codes in the copyright so perhaps Canada was going to get gold classics in 1990 but it didn't eventuate. If that was true it makes sense that any that did appear would be from the initial 1990 release before the line cut.


Gold Box 'original' Optimus Primes have been released with T2 trailers with the made in china manufacturing stamps (Same as the G2 black trailers), multiple examples have appeared in Australia - so Hasbro was likely filling the demand for the gold boxed primes before they moved full on into G2. These later Made in china grey trailers are much rarer than the blocked stamp versions.

Taiwanese G1

If the box or card has a big yellow sticker on the card or box, that's an official Taiwan release. Some Taiwan releases are 1980's US releases, while some are 1990's Chinese releases. You'll have to look for the other differences in order to tell for sure. Example - Nightbeat has the big Taiwanese sticker over the logo, it's clearly not the 1990's Chinese reissue (that came in a Dutch box) it has the normal copyright string on the back, and it does not have the thick silver-bordered metallic flame stickers. While the Sunstreaker pictured is the 1990's release, as it has the shortened copyright.

A Korean Motormaster -

First, take a look at the manufacturing date on the import sticker of this toy, and then take a look at the area below the tech spec on the back of the box.

The import sticker says it was made in 1989, which is the same year that the Chinese G1 Transformers were initially released.

The manufacturing location below the tech spec has a black bar over it just like many Pre-Headmasters Chinese G1 Transformers. The only explanation is that this IS a 1990’s Chinese G1 Transformer, except without the Chinese stickers and with a Korean sticker instead. It is the same toy but intended to be sold in Korea instead of China.

Look at the two logos on the import sticker. The blue logo belongs to Hasbro. The elephant logo belongs to Young Toys, a prominent Korean toy company. The text of the import sticker confirms that this is a Transformer made by Hasbro and imported into Korea by Young Toys.



The fact that Young Toys imported this toy is extremely significant. In Korea around 1990, Young Toys was one of the very few Korean toy companies that actually entered into licensing agreements with foreign toy companies. For example, they licensed from Bandai the rights to produce toys from series like Jetman, Liveman, Fiveman, and Machine Robo. Pretty much all other Korean toy companies at the time produced knockoffs. (It was not until many years later, in the mid-1990’s, that companies like Sonokong and Academy stopped making knockoffs and began entering into licensing agreements with U.S. and Japanese toy companies.) Therefore, since Young Toys made and imported only licensed goods around 1990, these 1990’s G1 Transformers must have been made by Hasbro.

1991 - 1992 Japanese mail-in exclusives

Like the US, Japan had mail-in exclusives you could get by sending in robot points with some money. In 1991 and 1992, their mail-in exclusives consisted of US-packaged reissues of older Transformers.

1991 Aerialbots: All five of them.

1992 Dinobots: All five of them.

The Aerialbots were simply the Chinese releases without the Chinese sticker in the corner. Thus, you can tell them apart from the original releases by using the methods mentioned above.

One way to tell Japanese mail-in Dinobots apart from the original 1980's releases is that they do not have rubsigns. (Note that Chinese packaged Dinobots did have rubsigns.) They also have the same abbreviated copyright information on their boxes as the Series 1 through 4 Chinese releases, interestingly dinobots with the shortened copyright with the gray background - see example have also been found in Japan.


There were also US-packaged Insecticons offered from 1987 to 1990, but it's presently unclear whether there are any differences between these and the original US releases. After all, several other US-packaged TFs were available as mail-in exclusives one or two years after their original release. The only thing strange about the Insecticons is that Takara continued to offer them as mail-ins for 4 years!  Advice from Chinese fans suggests that the Insecticons were never released in China. We also know Insections were shelf warmers in multiple markets so this could be simply dead stock that never got sent out to its originally intended destination.

Mysterious blocked no-Hasbro copyright releases

These just showed up on Ebay in 2008, although they appear to be much, much older. Since they were made in Japan, they're clearly not 1990's reissues like the toys mentioned above, but I didn't really feel like they deserved their own separate guide. As discussed below, they were probably made around 1986 or 1987.

So far we have only noticed two of them: Optimus Prime and Astrotrain. Optimus Prime has "(C) Hasbro" blacked out on the back of the box. Astrotrain has ALL of the copyright/manufacturing information removed. Here are pictures of the altered Copyright strings of the two toys:

Why are these mysterious? Well, no one really knows what they are. Obviously, the removal of "(C) Hasbro" is very sketchy, but Chinese TFs have similar alterations, and they turned out to be legit. Thus far there are only a couple clues about these toys:

Optimus Prime has black boxes around the the toy pictures on the front of the box. This is the same as the Mexican and Chinese releases, both of which came out around 1989.

The cases say "Made in Japan" and the seller claims they were originally purchased in Japan.

The cases that they came in are marked "PEL" instead of "Hasbro". (Some normal Springers, Octanes, and Astrotrains also came in the cases, strangely.)

Since these were, apparently, made in Japan, they had to have been made between 1984 and 1987, since starting in 1988 almost no Transformers were being made in Japan anymore. The black boxes on the Optimus Prime suggest a later release, so these were probably made in 1986 or 1987. Given that they were made and purchased in Japan, maybe PEL is a subcontractor that Hasbro and Takara used to manufacture Transformers. Maybe as their contract was expiring, they manufactured and sold a few TFs under the table, but altered the Copyright markings in an attempt to avoid getting into trouble.



Another theory I recently thought of is that these could be transitional variants not intended for release. That is, when Hasbro transitioned from "(C) Hasbro" to "(C) Hasbro Bradley", they had to alter the backs of their boxes by erasing the old copyright info and printing the new copyright info on top of it. On Optimus Prime in particular, this involved adding a black bar over the old copyright info, just like the mysterious version. Of course, the difference between the mysterious version and the Hasbro Bradley version is that it says "(C) Hasbro Bradley" on the Hasbro Bradley version. So maybe during the change, they printed out a couple test boxes to see what the erased copyright looked like before adding the new copyright. If that's the case, these aren't later reissues at all, but just weird not-intended-for-sale versions.



Anyway, whatever they really are, at least they're easy to tell apart from the originals. Just look for "(C) Hasbro" missing from the back of the box.

Image gallery (click to enlarge)

Credits:Original Author - Might Gaine

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Special Thanks to Fighbird/Martin from Autocon for providing the comparison images of Seaspray and Nightbeat.

Thanks to The Spacebridge for having the patience to answer my questions!

Thanks to Karl Hartman for letting me use his extensive list.

Thanks to Megatoron from the Allspark for adding many toys to the list.

Thanks to George Bee for discovering the Chinese Sunstreaker.

Thanks to twitter users @BoopsmyBoops for the Taiwanese Sunstreaker and @au_tf_collector for the inferno blocked copyright.

Thanks to patobot for discovering the Chinese Tracks.

Thanks for doublespy for the providing the Optimus Prime photos.

Thanks to Chris (Janda the red) for the Ramjet Photos.

Thanks to hoardworld for use of the ZigZag advertisement.

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